How Long Should You Keep Trying to Get Published?

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Note: I wrote the following article for Writer’s Digest magazine last year (July/August 2011) about how to get published; I’ve lightly updated it for distribution here. If you’re interested in more advice about how to get traditionally published, read my comprehensive post on the topic.

Don’t you wish someone could tell you how close you are to getting traditionally published? Don’t you wish someone could say, “If you just keep at it for three more years, you’re certain to make it!”

Or, even if it would be heartbreaking, wouldn’t it be nice to be told that you’re wasting your time, so that you can move on, try another tack (like self-publishing), or perhaps even change course entirely to produce some other creative work?

I’ve counseled thousands of writers over the years, and even if it’s not possible for me to read their work, I can usually say something definitive about what their next steps should be. I often see when they’re wasting their time. No matter where you are in your own publishing path, you should periodically take stock of where you’re headed, and revise as necessary.

Recognizing Steps That Don’t Help You Get Published

Let’s start with four common time-wasting behaviors. You may be guilty of one or more. Most writers have been guilty of the first.

1. Submitting manuscripts that aren’t your best work

Let’s be honest. We all secretly hope that some editor or agent will read our work, drop everything, and call us to say: This is a work of genius! YOU are a genius!

Few writers give up on this dream entirely, but to increase the chances of this happening, you have to give each manuscript everything you’ve got, with nothing held back. Too many writers save their best effort for some future work, as if they were going to run out of good material.

You can’t operate like that.

Every single piece of greatness must go into your current project. Be confident that your well is going to be refilled. Make your book better than you ever thought possible—that’s what it needs to compete. It can’t be good.

“Good” gets rejected. Your work has to be the best. How do you know when it’s ready, when it’s your best? I like how Writer’s Digest editor and author Chuck Sambuchino answers this question at writing conferences: “If you think the story has a problem, it does—and any story with a problem is not ready.”

It’s common for a new writer who doesn’t know any better to send off his manuscript without realizing how much work is left to do. But experienced writers are usually most guilty of sending out work that is not ready. Stop wasting your time.

2. Self-publishing when no one is listening

There are many reasons writers choose to self-publish, but the most common one is the inability to land an agent or a traditional publisher.

Fortunately, it’s more viable than ever for a writer to be successful without a traditional publisher or agent. However, when writers chase self-publishing as an alternative to traditional publishing, they often have a nasty surprise in store:

No one is listening. They don’t have an audience.

Bowker reports that in 2011, more than 148,000 new print books were self-published, and more than 87,000 e-books were self-published. (See more about the report here.) Since Bowker only counts books that have ISBNs, that means thousands more titles go uncounted, since Amazon doesn’t require an ISBN for authors to publish through the Kindle Direct Publishing program.

If your goal is to bring your work successfully to the marketplace, it’s a waste of time to self-publish that work, regardless of format, if you haven’t yet cultivated an audience for it, or can’t market and promote it effectively through your network. Doing so will not likely harm your career in the long run, but it won’t move it forward, either.

3. Looking for major publication of regional or niche work

The cookbook memoir that your local church ladies produced this year is probably not appropriate for one of the major New York publishers.

That may seem obvious when stated, but every year agents receive thousands of submissions for work that does not have national appeal, and does not deserve shelf space at every chain bookstore in the country. (And that’s typically why you get an agent: to sell your work to the big publishers, who specialize in national bookstore distribution and mass-media marketing.)

Now, if those church ladies were notorious for producing the award-winning Betty Crocker recipe 20 years in a row, we’d be onto something with a national market. But few regional works have that kind of broader angle.

As a writer, one of the most difficult tasks you face is having sufficient distance from your work to understand how a publishing professional would view the market for it, or to determine if there’s a commercial angle to be exploited. You have to view your work not as something precious to you, but as a product to be positioned and sold. That means pitching your work only to the most appropriate publishing houses, even if they’re in your own backyard rather than New York City.

4. Focusing on publishing when you should be writing

Some new writers are far too concerned with queries, agents, marketing or conference-going, instead of first producing the best work possible.

Don’t get me wrong—for some types of nonfiction, it’s essential to have a platform in place before you write the book. The fact that nonfiction authors don’t typically write the full manuscript until after acceptance of their proposal (with the exception of memoir and creative nonfiction) is indicative of how much platform means to their publication.

But for everyone else—those of us who are not selling a book based solely on the proposal—don’t get consumed with finding an agent until you’re a writer ready for publication. While I’m not advocating reclusive behavior—writers need to socialize and start developing relationships with other writers and authors—I see too many writers developing anxiety about the publishing process before they’ve even demonstrated to themselves that they can commit to writing and revising thousands and thousands of words—before they put in the amount of work that creates a publication-ready manuscript.

And now we come to that tricky matter again. How do you know when you’ve written and revised enough? How do you know when the work is ready?

Evaluating Your Place on the Publication Path

Whenever I sit down for a critique session with a writer, I ask three questions early on:

  1. How long have you been working on this manuscript, and who has seen it?
  2. Is this the first manuscript you’ve ever completed?
  3. How long have you been actively writing?

These questions help me evaluate where the writer might be on the publication path. Here are a few generalizations I can often make.

  • Many first manuscript attempts are not publishable, even after revision, yet they are necessary and vital for a writer’s growth. A writer who’s just finished her first manuscript probably doesn’t realize this, and will likely take the rejection process very hard. Some writers can’t move past this rejection. You’ve probably heard experts advise that you should always start working on the next manuscript, rather than waiting to publish the first. That’s because you need to move on, and not get stuck on publishing your first attempt.
  • A writer who has been working on the same manuscript for years and years—and has written nothing else—might be tragically stuck. There isn’t usually much valuable learning going on when someone tinkers with the same pages over a decade.
  • Writers who have been actively writing for many years, have produced multiple full-length manuscripts, have one or two trusted critique partners (or mentors), and have attended a couple major writing conferences are often well positioned for publication. They probably know their strengths and weaknesses, and have a structured revision process. Many such people require only luck to meet preparedness.
  • Writers who have extensive experience in one medium, then attempt to tackle another (e.g., journalists tackling the novel) may overestimate their abilities to produce a publishable manuscript on the first try. That doesn’t mean their effort won’t be good, but it might not be good enough. Fortunately, any writer with professional experience will probably approach the process with more of a business mindset, a good network of contacts to help him understand next steps, and a range of tools to overcome the challenges.

Notice I have not mentioned talent. I have not mentioned creative writing classes or degrees. I have not mentioned online presence. These factors are usually less relevant in determining how close you are to publishing a book-length work.

The two things that are relevant:

  1. How much time you’ve put into writing. I agree with Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000-hour rule in Outliers: The key to success in any field is, to a large extent, a matter of practicing a specific task for a total of around 10,000 hours.
  2. Whether you’re reading enough to understand where you lie on the spectrum of quality. In his series on storytelling (available on YouTube), Ira Glass says:

The first couple years that you’re making stuff, what you’re making isn’t so good. It’s not that great. It’s trying to be good, it has ambitions, but it’s not that good. But your taste, the thing that got you into the game, your taste is still killer. Your taste is good enough that you can tell that what you’re making is kind of a disappointment to you. You can tell that it’s still sort of crappy. A lot of people never get past that phase. A lot of people at that point quit. … Most everybody I know who does interesting creative work, they went through a phase of years where they had really good taste [and] they could tell that what they were making wasn’t as good as they wanted it to be.

If you can’t perceive the gap—or if you haven’t gone through the “phase”—you probably aren’t reading enough. How do you develop good taste? You read. How do you understand what quality work is? You read. What’s the best way to improve your skills aside from writing more? You read. You write, and you read, and you begin to close the gap between the quality you want to achieve, and the quality you can achieve. In short: You’ve got to produce a lot of crap before you can produce something publishable by traditional Big Six standards.

Signs You’re Getting Closer to Publication

  • You start receiving personalized, “encouraging” rejections.
  • Agents or editors reject the manuscript you submitted, but ask you to send your next work. (They can see that you’re on the verge of producing something great.)
  • Your mentor (or published author friend) tells you to contact his agent, without you asking for a referral.
  • An agent or editor proactively contacts you because she spotted your quality writing somewhere online or in print.
  • Looking back, you understand why your work was rejected, and see that it deserved rejection. You probably even feel embarrassed by earlier work.

Knowing When It’s Time to Change Course

I used to believe that great work would eventually get noticed—you know, that old theory that quality bubbles to the top?

I don’t believe that any more.

Great work is overlooked every day, for a million reasons. Business concerns outweigh artistic concerns. Some people are just perpetually unlucky.

To avoid beating your head against the wall, here are some questions that can help you understand when and how to change course.

1. Is your work commercially viable?

Indicators will eventually surface if your work isn’t suited for commercial publication. You’ll hear things like: “Your work is too quirky or eccentric.” “It has narrow appeal.” “It’s experimental.” “It doesn’t fit the model.” Possibly: “It’s too intellectual, too demanding.” These are signs that you may need to consider self-publishing—which will also require you to find the niche audience you appeal to.

2. Are readers responding to something you didn’t expect?

I see this happen all the time: A writer is working on a manuscript that no one seems interested in, but has fabulous success on some side project. Perhaps you really want to push your memoir, but it’s a humorous tip series on your blog that everyone loves. Sometimes it’s better to pursue what’s working, and what people express interest in, especially if you take enjoyment in it. Use it as a steppingstone to other things if necessary.

3. Are you getting bitter?

You can’t play poor, victimized writer and expect to get published. As it is in romantic relationships, pursuing an agent or editor with an air of desperation, or with an Eeyore complex, will not endear you to them. Embittered writers carry a huge sign with them that screams, “I’m unhappy, and I’m going to make you unhappy, too.”

If you find yourself demonizing people in the publishing industry, taking rejections very personally, feeling as if you’re owed something, and/or complaining whenever you get together with other writers, it’s time to find the refresh button. Return to what made you feel joy and excitement about writing in the first place. Perhaps you’ve been focusing too much on getting published, and you’ve forgotten to cherish the other aspects. Which brings me to the overall theory of how you should, at various stages of your career, revisit and revise your publication strategy.

Revising Your Publishing Plan

No matter how the publishing world changes, consider these three timeless factors as you make decisions about your next steps forward:

1. What makes you happy

This is the reason you got into writing in the first place. Even if you put this on the back burner in order to advance other aspects of your writing and publishing career, don’t leave it out of the equation for very long. Otherwise your efforts can come off as mechanistic or uninspired, and you’ll eventually burn out.

2. What earns you money

Not everyone cares about earning money from writing—and I believe that anyone in it for the coin should find some other field—but as you gain experience, the choices you make in this regard become more important. The more professional you become, the more you have to pay attention to what brings the most return on your investment of time and energy. As you succeed, you don’t have time to pursue every opportunity. You have to STOP doing some things.

3. What reaches readers or grows your audience

Growing readership is just as valuable as earning money. It’s like putting a bit of money in the bank and making an investment that pays off as time passes. Sometimes you’ll want to make trade-offs that involve earning less money in order to grow readership, because it invests in your future. (E.g., for a time you might focus on building a blog or a site, rather than writing for print publication, to grow a more direct line to your fans.)

It is rare that every piece of writing you do, or every opportunity presented, can involve all three elements at once. Commonly you can get two of the three. Sometimes you’ll pursue certain projects with only one of these factors in play. You get to decide based on your priorities at any given point in time.

At the very beginning of this post, I suggested that it might be nice if someone could tell us if we’re wasting our time trying to get traditionally published.

Here’s a little piece of hope: If your immediate thought was, I couldn’t stop writing even if someone told me to give up, then you’re much closer to publication than someone who is easily discouraged. The battle is far more psychological than you might think. Those who can’t be dissuaded are more likely to reach their goals, regardless of the path they ultimately choose.



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Jane Friedman

Jane Friedman

Jane Friedman (@JaneFriedman) has 20 years of experience in the publishing industry, with expertise in digital media strategy for authors and publishers. She is the co-founder and editor of The Hot Sheet, the essential newsletter on the publishing industry for authors.

In addition to being a columnist for Publishers Weekly, Jane is a professor with The Great Courses, which released her 24-lecture series, How to Publish Your Book. She also has a book forthcoming from the University of Chicago Press, The Business of Being a Writer (March 2018).

Jane speaks regularly at conferences and industry events such as BookExpo America, Digital Book World, and the AWP Conference, and has served on panels with the National Endowment for the Arts and the Creative Work Fund. Find out more.

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A great article, thank you. I especially enjoyed this refreshingly honest acknowledgement of a truth I have long suspected:

“I used to believe that great work would eventually get noticed—you know, that old theory that quality bubbles to the top?
I don’t believe that any more.
Great work is overlooked every day, for a million reasons.”

I appreciate many of the points in this article. Writing is damned hard work! I also want to say that the term ‘good’ in relation to publishing can be hurtful for those struggling to be trade-published. ‘Good’ in terms of sales means a book with mass appeal. The writing of such a book certainly may not need this: “Every single piece of greatness must go into your current project.” ‘Good’ and ‘great’ are subjective. In the eyes of a reader, sometimes ‘great’ is a fluffy beach read. We all know that many have their very first book trade-published – because… Read more »
Laura Shumaker

Great, great spot on article, Jane, I think a lot of people decide to write a book based on a blog or a traumatic experience without taking the time to study the craft of writing. When I got started, I took a number of classes and joined a writing group-I really worked hard.Two different agents tried to place my book, but in the end, I self-published (fairly successfully-sold 7000 books). The greatest challenge has been balancing my marketing brain with my writing brain!


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Cyd Madsen
If writers had your audacity to be this honest, take it on the chin, and keep going, we’d have a lot more excellent writing out there for readers. Kudos. You’ve demonstrated your point in handling these comments and shown us all how it’s done. You’ve touched on some points I feel are critical. More time reading and writing than marketing; are you doing what you enjoy; and if you’re in this for the coin, think again. Since moving to rural Arkansas, I’ve had a great awakening about the arts. Believe it or not, people have been working at a fever… Read more »
Janet Oakley
I”m just discovering this post now. A very good post. I did self-published wanting to find out what the fuss was all about after years of submitting. I did make sure I had the novel in book form (Createspace) and have treated it like a traditional pub book as far as marketing goes. I’m not making a lot of money, but interest in the book is growing. It’s in libraries, sells out at my local indie and has been selected by numerous book clubs. Historical fiction, I’ve been invited to speak at museums and libraries. There is definitely a lot… Read more »

Thanks for this. It helps me focus my efforts.


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Gabriel Squailia

I’ve read this three times in the past week, mostly because I’m at the “encouraging rejections” phase and have been coming perilously close to getting embittered. Your words have been helpful, and I’m glad to have them to return to as things progress. Cheers, Jane!


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This is excellent advice. Many thanks. On a side note, I notice that your “critics” in these comments sound desperate and deeply insecure about how they’ve managed their careers. I think this only bolsters what you’re saying, as do your cogent replies to their shrill misgivings.


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Elizabeth Varadan

Wonderful article, Jane; so helpful. Thanks!

I’m sure this wasn’t the author’s intention, but I found this article really discouraging. It made me feel like, just because this is my first manuscript, and I’ve only been pursuing professional writing for about four years, then my book automatically is not worth trying to get published. It doesn’t take into account how hard you might have worked to edit and revise, if you’ve work-shopped it with other people or not, if you’ve built a platform with an audience for your book while writing it, or if your book is on a topic that is timely and could help… Read more »

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Self maturity and patience is a given to be successful, yes, that’s a given to most professionals. However, you keep coming back to the point of acquiring a network of trusted writers, authors, mentors, etc. That’s not something that’s normally readily available for an average Joe. How do you do it without devoting a fortune in time and money to looking instead of writing?


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Have written
since 1996, producing ten novels, found no one interested in my work (they did
not even ask me for a synopsis), made 2 novels in POD format, publisher gone
broke (not my fault). Now I’m working on my last one, after that it’s over, no
more chimera, can’t bear it anymore. I’ll try to pick up the loss of time in a more
useful manner. However, it was not all wasted time. It illustrates that hard
working, dedication and perseverance do not necessarily lead to success. I
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Dayle Trice

Just simply don’t stop trying. Learn from every feedback you will have and be better next time without the bad reviews you have.


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Thank you for writing so many helpful posts! I wrote my first children’s book in 2001 and only just sold my first two copies a few days ago when I self-published on Amazon’s KDP. (My nod to the plight of authors is here:

I truly appreciate all you’ve written! I honestly didn’t know if my book was ignored because it’s terrible or because it was lost in a sea of millions of stories. Thanks to your advice, I will choose to believe it was lost (until I start getting some reviews, anyway. Then, I guess, we’ll know for sure.).

Sally Matheny

Great article. The link for the YouTube video no longer works. I wanted to see if Ira Glass credited C.S. Lewis with those words. I have the Lewis’ quote mounted near my writing desk. It has encouraged me to push through many times.


Hello jane, thank you so much for this. I’m 19 and a fairly new writer. I started writing a sci-fi-fi novel back in 2014 that i have rewritten several times and just recently decided to move on from. I was doing some late night research, hoping to confirm that i wasn’t making a terrible decision. I stumbled upon this post and i gotta say thank you! It is very encouraging to hear that this is normal for any successful writer. I will take what i’ve learned and keep moving forward!